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Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - jroback - 03-31-2025

It would be really helpful to have a method to create a marker at all places where the peak level goes above a certain threshold.   In Audacity this is called "Label Sounds".  I've attached a screenshot, but basically you tell it the level above which you want a label, then it runs through your file and creates a marker everywhere there's a peak above that.   

Where this comes in really hand for me is when I'm doing final mastering and getting ready for normalization or a limiter, I like to use a clipper on transients. so that the limiter doesn't have to work as hard and so that my normalization isn't stunted by a couple of big transients.  Right now I'm having to scroll through the whole file to look for them, which can take quite a while in a 60 minute file.

I've attached a screenshot of what this looks like in Audacity.  Thanks for considering this!

Edit:

Thinking more about this, another way to go about this would be to have a feature for "jump to next peak of xx db". Then I could normalize the set to -.1 db and just keep jumping to the next item that hit that .1db limit to decide if I want to cut it or not. This might actually be even better and hopefully easier to code.

Thanks!


RE: Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - ivosight - 04-02-2025

(03-31-2025, 10:10 PM)jroback Wrote: It would be really helpful to have a method to create a marker at all places where the peak level goes above a certain threshold.   In Audacity this is called "Label Sounds".  I've attached a screenshot, but basically you tell it the level above which you want a label, then it runs through your file and creates a marker everywhere there's a peak above that.   

Where this comes in really hand for me is when I'm doing final mastering and getting ready for normalization or a limiter, I like to use a clipper on transients. so that the limiter doesn't have to work as hard and so that my normalization isn't stunted by a couple of big transients.  Right now I'm having to scroll through the whole file to look for them, which can take quite a while in a 60 minute file.

I've attached a screenshot of what this looks like in Audacity.  Thanks for considering this!

Edit:

Thinking more about this, another way to go about this would be to have a feature for "jump to next peak of xx db".  Then I could normalize the set to -.1 db and just keep jumping to the next item that hit that .1db limit to decide if I want to cut it or not.    This might actually be even better and hopefully easier to code.

Thanks!

Hi,

Thank you for reaching out.

Maybe you can try Mark Audio Range in the Detector panel. Welcome your further suggestions.

   

Best regards.


RE: Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - jroback - 04-11-2025

(04-02-2025, 06:18 AM)ivosight Wrote:
(03-31-2025, 10:10 PM)jroback Wrote: It would be really helpful to have a method to create a marker at all places where the peak level goes above a certain threshold.   In Audacity this is called "Label Sounds".  I've attached a screenshot, but basically you tell it the level above which you want a label, then it runs through your file and creates a marker everywhere there's a peak above that.   

Where this comes in really hand for me is when I'm doing final mastering and getting ready for normalization or a limiter, I like to use a clipper on transients. so that the limiter doesn't have to work as hard and so that my normalization isn't stunted by a couple of big transients.  Right now I'm having to scroll through the whole file to look for them, which can take quite a while in a 60 minute file.

I've attached a screenshot of what this looks like in Audacity.  Thanks for considering this!

Edit:

Thinking more about this, another way to go about this would be to have a feature for "jump to next peak of xx db".  Then I could normalize the set to -.1 db and just keep jumping to the next item that hit that .1db limit to decide if I want to cut it or not.    This might actually be even better and hopefully easier to code.

Thanks!

Hi,

Thank you for reaching out.

Maybe you can try Mark Audio Range in the Detector panel. Welcome your further suggestions.



Best regards.

Thanks for the feedback, I gave that a try, and it looks like exactly what I need, but I can't quite figure out how to use it.    When I select a range or even when I try to scan the whole track, it seems to generate one marker range for the whole selection if any point crosses the value I'm trying, or it just gives nothing, but I've never had it give more than one response.

I've uploaded a couple of examples, and I put red arrows where I had expected the markers to be drawn.  These photos are after clicking the scan button.   In the first example it found one range, and in the second example it found nothing.   Am I using the feature incorrectly?  I couldn't find any real documentation on the feature, just a brief mention in the manual.   Are there more instructions for it somewhere or can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?   

I could understand it creating a range if there were a very large number results in one place, but for individual peaks a point marker or very small range is what I was hoping for.

Another function that would help me if it was able to jump the cursor to the next time that there was audio exceeding the level I select.  (eg.   "Move cursor to next occurrence of Over  ___ db).  This would be great for my workflow because I jump between these deciding if editing or clipping is needed.

Thanks!
Jeff


RE: Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - ivosight - 04-12-2025

(04-11-2025, 02:14 PM)jroback Wrote:
(04-02-2025, 06:18 AM)ivosight Wrote:
(03-31-2025, 10:10 PM)jroback Wrote: It would be really helpful to have a method to create a marker at all places where the peak level goes above a certain threshold.   In Audacity this is called "Label Sounds".  I've attached a screenshot, but basically you tell it the level above which you want a label, then it runs through your file and creates a marker everywhere there's a peak above that.   

Where this comes in really hand for me is when I'm doing final mastering and getting ready for normalization or a limiter, I like to use a clipper on transients. so that the limiter doesn't have to work as hard and so that my normalization isn't stunted by a couple of big transients.  Right now I'm having to scroll through the whole file to look for them, which can take quite a while in a 60 minute file.

I've attached a screenshot of what this looks like in Audacity.  Thanks for considering this!

Edit:

Thinking more about this, another way to go about this would be to have a feature for "jump to next peak of xx db".  Then I could normalize the set to -.1 db and just keep jumping to the next item that hit that .1db limit to decide if I want to cut it or not.    This might actually be even better and hopefully easier to code.

Thanks!

Hi,

Thank you for reaching out.

Maybe you can try Mark Audio Range in the Detector panel. Welcome your further suggestions.



Best regards.

Thanks for the feedback, I gave that a try, and it looks like exactly what I need, but I can't quite figure out how to use it.    When I select a range or even when I try to scan the whole track, it seems to generate one marker range for the whole selection if any point crosses the value I'm trying, or it just gives nothing, but I've never had it give more than one response.

I've uploaded a couple of examples, and I put red arrows where I had expected the markers to be drawn.  These photos are after clicking the scan button.   In the first example it found one range, and in the second example it found nothing.   Am I using the feature incorrectly?  I couldn't find any real documentation on the feature, just a brief mention in the manual.   Are there more instructions for it somewhere or can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?   

I could understand it creating a range if there were a very large number results in one place, but for individual peaks a point marker or very small range is what I was hoping for.

Another function that would help me if it was able to jump the cursor to the next time that there was audio exceeding the level I select.  (eg.   "Move cursor to next occurrence of Over  ___ db).  This would be great for my workflow because I jump between these deciding if editing or clipping is needed.

Thanks!
Jeff

Hi,

The audio range marker tool identifies audio ranges based on the length and threshold of the RMS value.

In your examples, the positions indicated by the arrows may not be marked because of a low RMS value or insufficient length.

If you want to find positions where peak levels exceed a certain threshold, we will consider adding a new tool for this purpose.

Thanks for your suggestion.

Best regards,


RE: Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - jroback - 04-12-2025

Got it.   Yes, if you would consider adding this I would really appreciate it.   This would save me a LOT of manual work during editing.  Thank you!

Jeff


RE: Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - ivosight - 05-21-2025

(04-12-2025, 04:17 PM)jroback Wrote: Got it.   Yes, if you would consider adding this I would really appreciate it.   This would save me a LOT of manual work during editing.  Thank you!

Jeff

Hi,

We have added support for finding peak levels above a specific threshold and marking ranges according to peak levels in the latest version. Please check it out.

   

   

   

Best regards.


RE: Feature Request: Create Markers by Peak (Label Sounds) - jroback - 05-27-2025

This is FANTASTIC, thanks so much, this will help me with a project I'm working on today.